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		<title>By: Hula-Bula Goldenhorn Yoyo-Titty</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-16691</link>
		<dc:creator>Hula-Bula Goldenhorn Yoyo-Titty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 20:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wikipedia has some accurate information, but many pages have become the subject of &quot;Editing Wars&quot; in which editors write something, then it gets deleted as it can&#039;t be verified through an online link - then the deletion gets undone as the editor is angry over the deletion, and so on. 

Wikipedia also has a very stark, old-fashioned appearance. The addition of Wikipedia&#039;s &quot;Creative Commons&quot; licenses makes it well nigh impossible to add a photo to any article, due to red tape surrounding permissions of copyright and re-use of the images. For celebrities, this means that a nice-looking, hard working actor or musician might get their photo deleted, whereas Osama Bin Laden has a (poor quality) mugshot. This is largely due to supe-editor nerds with names like Hullabaloo Wildenstern III, who have Wiki awards on their user pages, and have somehow entered the upper hierarchy of the Wikipedia Hivemind. They just go around deleting things whenever they feel like it.

What with articles being deleted for lack of notability, and pictures being deleted without warning regardless of quality or how hard the editor worked to get permission, Wikipedia has become a shell of its former self and the very paragon of everything it claims not to be. Avoid it like the plague.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wikipedia has some accurate information, but many pages have become the subject of &#8220;Editing Wars&#8221; in which editors write something, then it gets deleted as it can&#8217;t be verified through an online link &#8211; then the deletion gets undone as the editor is angry over the deletion, and so on. </p>
<p>Wikipedia also has a very stark, old-fashioned appearance. The addition of Wikipedia&#8217;s &#8220;Creative Commons&#8221; licenses makes it well nigh impossible to add a photo to any article, due to red tape surrounding permissions of copyright and re-use of the images. For celebrities, this means that a nice-looking, hard working actor or musician might get their photo deleted, whereas Osama Bin Laden has a (poor quality) mugshot. This is largely due to supe-editor nerds with names like Hullabaloo Wildenstern III, who have Wiki awards on their user pages, and have somehow entered the upper hierarchy of the Wikipedia Hivemind. They just go around deleting things whenever they feel like it.</p>
<p>What with articles being deleted for lack of notability, and pictures being deleted without warning regardless of quality or how hard the editor worked to get permission, Wikipedia has become a shell of its former self and the very paragon of everything it claims not to be. Avoid it like the plague.</p>
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		<title>By: Rune</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-5473</link>
		<dc:creator>Rune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Nov 2010 23:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having contributed to an article in the past and then seeing your contributions randomly edited, moved and deleted by various editors is quite counter productive.

Essentially there seems to be a couple of views on information in Wikipedia.  
1) The strict Encyclopedia version where all information should be referenced, irrefutable and censored by the editors according to strict guidelines, templates and as mentioned above a public consensus that may be biased according to the editors cultural and country background.

2) The more open version where any useful information about a subject is included, unless obviously false of course.  There really is no problem in including all potentially useful information, as long as the information is tagged according to reliability.

These strategies represent different people and views that are at odds with each oter.  The first category place great value on a smaller but technically correct content - while the second category places more value on including the lesser known facts about a subject.

Personally I think the first category belongs in books, while the second is more suitable for research purposes - and that is certainly my number one reason for using Wikipedia at all.

Additionally some editors may in effect be hired to author/edit/delete information much like the current lobbying activities of commercial or political interests.  There is no good way currently to confirm or resolve such &quot;hidden agendas&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having contributed to an article in the past and then seeing your contributions randomly edited, moved and deleted by various editors is quite counter productive.</p>
<p>Essentially there seems to be a couple of views on information in Wikipedia.<br />
1) The strict Encyclopedia version where all information should be referenced, irrefutable and censored by the editors according to strict guidelines, templates and as mentioned above a public consensus that may be biased according to the editors cultural and country background.</p>
<p>2) The more open version where any useful information about a subject is included, unless obviously false of course.  There really is no problem in including all potentially useful information, as long as the information is tagged according to reliability.</p>
<p>These strategies represent different people and views that are at odds with each oter.  The first category place great value on a smaller but technically correct content &#8211; while the second category places more value on including the lesser known facts about a subject.</p>
<p>Personally I think the first category belongs in books, while the second is more suitable for research purposes &#8211; and that is certainly my number one reason for using Wikipedia at all.</p>
<p>Additionally some editors may in effect be hired to author/edit/delete information much like the current lobbying activities of commercial or political interests.  There is no good way currently to confirm or resolve such &#8220;hidden agendas&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric P</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-1066</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 14:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One problem with wikipedia is that the power of it&#039;s content is with a few persons. Anyone can contribute but if there are different opinions then there is no good way to resolve whose opinion will be stated in wikipedia. The way it is now it&#039;s not the educated opinion, it&#039;s the popular opinion. Or rather, it&#039;s the opinion of the loud few who wants to spread their word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One problem with wikipedia is that the power of it&#8217;s content is with a few persons. Anyone can contribute but if there are different opinions then there is no good way to resolve whose opinion will be stated in wikipedia. The way it is now it&#8217;s not the educated opinion, it&#8217;s the popular opinion. Or rather, it&#8217;s the opinion of the loud few who wants to spread their word.</p>
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		<title>By: nosson</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>nosson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Mar 2010 17:15:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is the discussion page on Wikipedia a wiki. Shouldn&#039;t it be like a regular discussion page where it cant be deleted by anyone who wants?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is the discussion page on Wikipedia a wiki. Shouldn&#8217;t it be like a regular discussion page where it cant be deleted by anyone who wants?</p>
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		<title>By: vargas</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Jan 2010 05:31:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yeah, but not just any website is set up to be an informational reference point. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Therefore there is an obligation to be dispassionate and accurate with the information it provides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yeah, but not just any website is set up to be an informational reference point. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Therefore there is an obligation to be dispassionate and accurate with the information it provides.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 20:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting observation, I do use Wikipedia as reference but I can see your point. The same can be said of any website and its content though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting observation, I do use Wikipedia as reference but I can see your point. The same can be said of any website and its content though.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 23:34:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I really do not like it because it is not authority. Uneducated, dumb and wanna be smart ass people are the ones who are giving their opinions only. I think that it is fine if you are AWARE that a lot of what you might be reading might not be true then, go ahead and read it. BUT if you are not aware of this you will be pulling in a bunch of false data. This is NOT good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I really do not like it because it is not authority. Uneducated, dumb and wanna be smart ass people are the ones who are giving their opinions only. I think that it is fine if you are AWARE that a lot of what you might be reading might not be true then, go ahead and read it. BUT if you are not aware of this you will be pulling in a bunch of false data. This is NOT good.</p>
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		<title>By: Wiki Wiki Woo &#171; MuldoonSix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiki Wiki Woo &#171; MuldoonSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 14:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] with all the props from the study mentioned above, there is still a dark side of Wikipedia.  So much so, that many teachers today prohibit students from using Wikipedia as a [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with all the props from the study mentioned above, there is still a dark side of Wikipedia.  So much so, that many teachers today prohibit students from using Wikipedia as a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
		<link>http://www.moongrabber.com/misc/the-problem-with-wikipedia-today#comment-221</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Apr 2009 05:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i love wikipedia. ^^</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i love wikipedia. ^^</p>
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		<title>By: bibor</title>
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		<dc:creator>bibor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 11:14:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wikipedia almost know everything , so its a nice source when u need to know something fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wikipedia almost know everything , so its a nice source when u need to know something fast.</p>
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