Comments on: Why Flash-based Websites are Bad

By: Jim@Altech

Jim@Altech — Tue, 06 Oct 2009 09:20:48 +0000

Using flash elements is ok – it’s when your entire home page is one big flash file that you run into problems with the search engines

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By: kral oyun

kral oyun — Sat, 12 Sep 2009 13:49:35 +0000

One thing i know for sure if sites load slow people just leave. They also hate sites with ads that slow site down.

You want site to load fast even if they use dial up instead of dsl so you get people to see what site has to offer. It is so hard getting people to your site so you might as well make sure they stay long enough to see it.

By: Nick@Flash development

Nick@Flash development — Thu, 10 Sep 2009 20:11:26 +0000

The biggest issue with Flash outside of usability is that the search engines do not like flash. They have a real difficult time reading it. Everyone wants their sites listed in the search engines and if you develop your entire site in Flash, your site will never get found by the search engines.

By: Jon

Jon — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:53:40 +0000

I totally agree with you in that we don’t need big multimeda experiences on the iphone (or other portables), but when a site doesn’t offer any sort of alternative is when we have problems.

There are still quite a few big name sites that are built completely in Flash, with no alternate content for the IPhone (or anything else that can’t use/doesn’t have Flash).

And just because a large portion of the general browsing population has Flash installed, it doesn’t mean they have the latest version, or that your Flash detection script will work properly (hate sites that tell me my Flash is out of date when I’m using the latest release).

By: Responsible Blogging at its Finest (Gnarfard)

Responsible Blogging at its Finest (Gnarfard) — Wed, 17 Sep 2008 22:49:22 +0000

the problem is ubiquitous with all web technologies – and as I said already you should always use the correct one for the product you have to deliver.

With this in mind, the no-flash-on-iphone isnâ€™t a big issue. I donâ€™t need to browse sites that are big multimedia experiences on my iPhone

By: kevin@Cheapest dsl

kevin@Cheapest dsl — Sun, 07 Sep 2008 00:28:58 +0000

One thing i know for sure if sites load slow people just leave. They also hate sites with ads that slow site down.

By: NaldzGraphics

NaldzGraphics — Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:58:40 +0000

depends on the site.other sites are so irritating specially when it loads too long. NaldzGraphicss last blog post..300+ Best of the Best High Quality Abstract Brushes in Photoshop

By: Jon

Jon — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 13:43:04 +0000

Large files are still an issue! I know many internet users that are still using dial up or comparable connections, not to mention that anyone visiting on a mobile browser probably doesn’t have the greatest connection either.

Even with a speedy DSL connection at home some flash sites are painful to load, and as I covered in my previous article on “How fast does your site load?” your site needs to load in around 4 seconds or less to keep your visitors from giving up and going elsewhere. Many of the Flash (and other new web technology sites!) that I see take much longer than 4 seconds to load (I’ve seen AJAX sites take well over 30 seconds to load).

I agree to some extent on the IPhone part. I don’t need to see some big multimedia production on my IPhone, but if a site doesn’t provide some sort of alternate content I get nothing (norobots.co.uk for example).

By: derick murdoch

derick murdoch — Thu, 24 Jul 2008 12:25:21 +0000

For every 1 good HTML site there are THOUSANDS of bad ones…..

Basically the problem is ubiquitous with all web technologies – and as I said already you should always use the correct one for the product you have to deliver.

With this in mind, the no-flash-on-iphone isn’t a big issue. I don’t need to browse sites that are big multimedia experiences on my iPhone – that’s not what mobile browsing is for. So no flash on phones isn’t an issue.

Furthermore, large files need not be an issue – and certainly these are campfire tales from the bad old days of flash and everyone on dial up – but again we’re back to good flash sites vs bad and good programming vs bad.